Lange 2012 SIHH: My view on the novelties.

Jan 21, 2012,00:52 AM
 


This year, Lange unveiled 5 watches.

One is a real novelty, the Lange One Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar.

Two can be seen as a deep evolution of two famous models, the Datograph Up - Down, and the Grande Lange one.

And the two last models, the Lange One Time Zone and the Saxonia Thin, received some slight changes.

Let's see all these watches in the detail.

1/ The true novelty: Lange One Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar:

- The Perpetual Calendar is complete:

A big date, at 11 o' clock, the day, which is retrograde, located between 8 and 10 o' clock, the month, displayed on a ring in the outside part of the dial, a leap year at 6 o' clock, the famous Lange moonphase, and a day night indicator, in the Time subdial.

- The Tourbillon receives an unsual technical refinement: A stop second, and Lange had the good idea to put it on the back side, to not " charge " the dial too much.

The case, in platinum or in rose gold, is 41, 9 mm big, and 12, 2 mm high.



A view on the Cal L 082.1, which, to be complete, offers a 50 hours power reserve.



Technically impressive, the decoration and the finish are conform to what we are in right to expect from Lange.

The Perpetual Calendar is legible, clean, very Lange.

But go figure why, I am not moved by it... Maybe because of this Big Rotor, which I really don't like.

2/ The In Depht Evolutions:

- The Grande Lange one.

On the former Grande Lange One, I didn't like the interpenetrating seconds, and minutes / hours subdials.

Here, Lange entirely revisited this model, to improve the balance of the dial.

The Big Date is bigger, the subdials are not overlapping anymore... These aesthetical improvements are more than welcome, from my point of view.

And wait, Lange also revisited the movement, which is now the Cal L 095.1 ( 72 hours power reserve ).

The case is slightly smaller than the previous one, with a diamter of 40, 9 mm, now, and the height is 8, 8 mm only, which gives a thin and very elegant look to the watch.

It is available in platinum, rose or yellow gold.





This Grande Lange One in platinum is so deliciously icy in platinum!



Give me a black dial, and I may include it in my collection.

- The Datograph Up / Down:

It is always a dangerous game to play with an icon....

The Datograph, launched in 1999, was, at this time, and is still nowadays, considered as an Icon.

Yes, it had some flaws: The big bezel, the short power reserve, the lack of zero for the first 9 days of the Date, but we can also say that its relative flaws were its strenght, too.

Lange gives a bigger case to the Datograph which is now 41 mm, which is 2 mm more, the baton hands replace the roman indexes, and the power reserve indicator ala Double Split is now installed, located just above 6 o' clock.

Technically, Lange improved the movement, by offering it an increased power reserve of 60 hours, versus the 36 hours of the original Datograph.











The first impression I had when looking at the press files pictures was the good one.

I am disappointed by this evolution.

A one or two millimeters bigger case, why not.

The baton indexes instead of the roman numbers, why not.

But this power reserve at 6 o' clock is a big no go, for me.

It ruins the DNA of the Datograph, in my book, which was this famous triangle between the two silver subdials and the big date.

It adds something technical, it removes the strong balance of the original model.

Here is a comparison picture, between the original and the new one:



But, at least, you wil stilll find the superb movement, one of the nicest chronograph movement ever made, a feast for the eyes.

The Cal L 951.6, in all its beauty:



3/ The slight evolutions:

- Lange One Time Zone:

Nothing spectacular, here.

Those who complained about the no luminous hands will be happy to know and to see that, this year, all the hands are luminous.

And that it is now avalaible in white gold ( same dimensions: 41, 9 mm big / 11 mm high ).









Another nice movement:



- My favourite, this year, which was also my favourite, last year, is the Saxonia Thin, now also available in ... Platinum, and in White Gold.

Thin, we can say... It is only 5, 9 mm high, for a diameter of 40 mm, which is maybe a tad too big for such a watch.

Around 37 or 38 mm, it would be a bomb!

The issue of a 40 mm case for such a watch?

The movement looks a bit lost:



But what a watch!

Ultra sober, ultra elegant, ultra understated, ultra cold:





I can't imagine the ravages this watch would cause with a black dial and two millimeters smaller!

I would like to thank Gaetan for his warm welcome at the Lange Booth, for his disponibility despite the effervescence during the SIHH, and for his friendship.

Looking forward to reading your comments,

Best.

Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-01-21 00:52:42 This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-01-25 20:56:12


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May I congratulate you on ,,

 
 By: moc : January 21st, 2012-01:07
your photo skills,you are improving all the time and I think that these are probably the best pics you have taken...warm and sensual..very good.... Well,every watch is wellk executed a la Lange ,but seems like nothing convinced you fully.As you know I agr... 

Still looking for an inspired watch.

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-01:15
My top six Lange are still the Datograph 1st generation, the Langematik Anniversary, the 1815 MP in platinum, the Lange One Pt Black dial, the Cabaret Pt black dial and the Richard Lange PLM Pt. None of the unveiled watches this year made me " WOW ". Mayb... 

Dial colours were once a Lange strength

 
 By: Moses : January 21st, 2012-01:18
I think they should bring back their more varied dial options. Black and blue dials were a real feature of early Lange.

Wow, real life pics!

 
 By: sidneyc : January 21st, 2012-01:26
Thanks for them Nico! +1 to Mo's comment about those photos of yours are looking spectacular! For me, this year's offering from Lange doesn't really excited me that much. Don't get me wrong, some of them are really great addition to the Lange line up but ... 

Well, Sidney

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-04:50
Why not automatic, if the movement enjoys a three quarter rotor? Some will tell me that a three quarter rotor may not bring enough power reserve to the watch, I would answer that Patek, wih their Micro Rotor ( Cal 240 ) succeeded in reaching 60 hours. I d... 

big date

 
 By: cuibono : January 21st, 2012-03:49
the overlapping dials for the big date always struck me as a flawed approach for such an elegant watch, so i'm glad that's been addressed. i think the hour markers on the tourbillon look a little out of keeping with the overall aesthetic. there's an infor... 

No real, no new beauty: that is true - just technical marvels

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 21st, 2012-04:06
But still a very nice line up, certainly: - the auto pp calendar tourbi is top with all its jumping indications (but still I wonder if the retrograd hands jumps up also instantly?) - a new movement in the Grand Lange with only one mainspring and nicely th... 

Position of dials

 
 By: dr.limms : January 21st, 2012-04:35
No doubt they're all beautiful and rarefied. Now, I always think the point of having an asymmetric hour dial is so that the time peeps out just under your left hand ('majority') cuff so that you can discreetly glance at the time. What do you think? I thin... 

If you want to have a discrete look at the Time, buy a Panerai.

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-04:54
Your Boss won't see you looking at the Time, and you will have no problem to read the Time on such a big watch. Did you try to have a quick look at the Time on an assymetric dial, which is, par nature, small? That is quite an impossible mission. But who, ... 

Thanks Nicolas for your report and your personnal impressions !

 
 By: cisco : January 21st, 2012-05:10
Your photos give a remarkable view on the novelties, thanks NIcolas for your work. - the Perpetual Calendar tourbillon. A fantastic complication presented in a very sober way. This kind of offer is rare nowadays. great job done. I love the dial and the wa... 

Well, it is a matter of taste, Cisco.

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-06:56
Some will apprciate this collection, others not. I wonder if it is not a clivage between old and new clients, which makes the difference in the appreciation. We are a lot to have lived the first days of the Lange Rebirth, and to have be enthusiasted in th... 

maybe :)

 
 By: cisco : January 21st, 2012-12:14
Like you I like to see how a brand evolved through times, an old one like Vacheron or Patek, or something recent like Lange or Richard Mille. Some are not much interested from what was done before. It is important for me, not to "betray" what makes the br... 

that side by side picture of the Datographs ...

 
 By: donizetti : January 21st, 2012-06:27
... was revelation. The old version looks so clearly superior, in my opinion. Thanks for that great report. Best Andreas

Thanks a lot for the report Nicolas.

 
 By: foversta : January 21st, 2012-06:28
I have a lot to say and good point for the discussion, I tend to disagree on some of your comments (and I agree on others). - I really like the Datograph and the power reserve display doesn't disturb me. - the PC Tourbillon is technically impressive (I wi... 

Interesting comments, as usual.

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-07:06
I don't follow you on the Dato, but maybe is it due to the fact that I owned it for several years and that I was used to live with it? I mean, to me, the Dato, as an Iconic watch it is, is a kind of alchimy. Change one fo the parameters, and it will not w... 

Power reserve display.

 
 By: foversta : January 21st, 2012-07:28
Thanks for your answer Nicolas. I just want to add that the power reserve display has an interest here: to gain space to put a slimmer but longer mainspring, Lange removed the Maltese Cross on top of the barrel which purpose was to insure the optimal ampl... 

So: it is not a power reserve indicator, more a "do not wind too much" indicator?

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 21st, 2012-07:51
Thank you very much for the insight into this technically interesting detail! My conclusion here would be: - the malteser cross is made redundant by the new, more powerful mainspring with better linearity (!) as well. - the second purpose of being a safet... 

No, no Moritz.

 
 By: foversta : January 21st, 2012-23:30
The purpose of the Maltese cross was to "reduce" the power reserve in order that the watch always works with the best amplitude. So with the new Datograph, at the very end of the power reserve, it could have a less accurate behaviour. The power reserve in... 

I think the perpetual calendar tourbillon is fantastic

 
 By: chintu : January 21st, 2012-07:22
Here is why I have to disagree with Nicolas. The perpetual calendar dial is perfectly understated. The time-indicating function is positioned conveniently for a discreet glance , without offending the person engaged in a conversation that has shot beyond ... 

When it comes to aesthetics, Narsi, it is hard to reach consensus.

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-07:44
And you are absolutely correct, this is a subjective matter, which may please to some, and not please to others. At the end, it will be to everybody to make his own opinion, from what he feels. As for the automatic movement, let's say that this big rotor ... 

Month on the ring

 
 By: willski : January 21st, 2012-09:01
I was reading your comments and it just came to mind that the new Cartier annual calendar also has the months on a perimeter ring. Interesting design there too. Doing so does make effective use of limited dial space I guess.

Tour perpetual is a beautiful watch

 
 By: Mostel : January 21st, 2012-08:49
t does not quicken my pulse, nor do any of these offerings... BUT I appreciate the excellence, and would be proud to wear them. I PREFER VERY MUCH the new Dato for its improved overall balance of design, and baton markers. I guess I'll need to see the Sax... 

Thanks for your input, Mostel, and don't hesitate to come back

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-09:11
To us when you see them! Best, Nicolas.

Agree & Not

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : January 21st, 2012-10:27
Nicolas, Thank you for the great post and nice pictures. Seeing the two Dato's next to each other quickly leads me to 100% agree with you (even though I originally liked the up/down indicator idea). The original is much better, better proportioned and jus... 

There is another Automatic Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar....

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-10:34
Look at the offer from a certain Swiss Cousin, JLC: The Master Grande Tradition Perpetual Calendar Tourbillon... For less than half the price of the Lange offer, but not with the same degree of finish, I agree. I think the problem I have is to consider it... 

Thanks for sharing your feelings Nicolas

 
 By: Mark in Paris : January 21st, 2012-10:36
Always a quite sensible difference between touching even for a short time a watch and just admiring pics. I guess Lange has spread positive evolutions over many watches of the collection, for the best, even if not always spectacular (except maybe for the ... 

Nico, thank you for your report and photos.........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : January 21st, 2012-23:21
I was awaiting such an article, so that I could see some "real" photos rather than the published ones. I found the thread most interesting and I thank Narsi for confirming my question re the chapter ring and the small arrow marker. Like other members have... 

Thank you, Topcat. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-23:25
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Ewiger Kalender

 
 By: PET- : January 22nd, 2012-08:02
The perpetual kalender is gorgeous. The dial is clean, easy to read, and its caliber is perfect. I think it can be not improved. Thanks, Nico.

Thanks for your feedback, PET. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 22nd, 2012-08:11
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Mon ami, did you wrote something wrongly?

 
 By: BluNotte : January 22nd, 2012-08:38
The Saxonia Thin is available in WG yes, but NOT in Platinum, at least to my understanding? Please correct me if i am wrong! Danke for the coverage ! Stephen

Both WG and Pt are available, AFAIK. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 22nd, 2012-08:58
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Correction: You're right. WG only. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 22nd, 2012-09:19
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Merci beaucoup for the confirmation! [nt]

 
 By: BluNotte : January 22nd, 2012-17:42
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I don't know why I wrote platinum. I checked on the Lange documents

 
 By: amanico : January 22nd, 2012-23:06
Once again, and no mention of a platinum case. When dreams are over reality... Nex year, it may well turn into reality... Best, Nicolas

I await with zest

 
 By: BluNotte : January 23rd, 2012-17:26
Just as i know you will be mon ami! Tschuss Stephen

RL PLM ... how about that one being your first Lange, Imran?

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 23rd, 2012-10:19
At least it caught your attention ... a lot, didn't it ? Regards Moritz

Thanks Nico for bringing your thought on this ...

 
 By: Greenwatch : January 22nd, 2012-16:17
What I was hoping for in a Daymatic moon phase was over exceeded by the Tourbillion perpetual novelty. Both smiling and crying as it will break the bank. I was hoping for an automatic Time Zone, maybe next year. Both of these models could be my first Lang... 

Datograph debate continues...

 
 By: dkennedy1001 : January 23rd, 2012-06:14
Like everyone else on here I was keen to see the new datograph side by side with the old in real life which Nicolas has provided. Thank you Nicolas. I was convinced that the new datograph was nicer than the old when first announced but now Im not so sure!...  

Well, the more I see these 2, the more I think the former had more character and strenght. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 23rd, 2012-06:24
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I agree with you on this, Nico.

 
 By: passetemps : January 24th, 2012-02:08
Yes. "The Classic Datograph has more character". This says it all. The new one is technically impeccable and aesthetically well balanced,. BUT it lacks the elements that make the original Datograph's strong personality. We are in agreement here. Une fois ... 

I agree with the distinguished Parisian persuader.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : January 23rd, 2012-06:50
But I am admittedly a tad impartial. Best, DatoJed

LOL... you meant Partial? :))) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : January 23rd, 2012-06:51
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No, it couldn't be.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : January 23rd, 2012-17:05
I was tested for that at my annual check-up with the doctor and the results were negative! ;-)

Well, I was awaiting your remarks

 
 By: MichaelC : January 23rd, 2012-14:26
After some in-the-flesh-time with the revised Datograph. Your sentiments do not surprise me. If not for the overwhelming success of the Datograph, I think we could better receive this new piece. Alas, you are right. The triangular order, the driving force... 

I think this is the point, Michael.

 
 By: amanico : January 23rd, 2012-14:30
Those who lived several years with the first Dato on their wrist or in their dreams may well remain stuck with it, while new clients may well appreciate it. A bit like cars... Carburator or injection? When you tasted the pleasure of carburators for many y... 

Marvelous pics indeed!

 
 By: BABKA : January 23rd, 2012-17:13
The movements are simply incredible. I personally like the new Dato. Thanks for posting.

Thanks for viewing.

 
 By: amanico : January 23rd, 2012-23:24

Thanks for great photos and summary

 
 By: KIH : January 23rd, 2012-20:33
(tell me about your set up in such a messy lighting situation someday ) I find myself still expecting and pursuing or be attracted by the first 14 years Lange DNA (94-08). Nonetheless, I still respect them - they did not announce any "dragon watch" There ... 

Exactly the same feeling, here, Ken.

 
 By: amanico : January 23rd, 2012-23:26
I am still waiting for the WOW factor. As for Dragon watches, I didn't even notice them. Best, my friend, and thanks for your nicely written input. Nicolas

Me likes the L1 Tourbillon Perpetual Nicolas...

 
 By: =RWK= : January 23rd, 2012-21:44
You can go ahead and get this one in PT for my up coming birthday ;-D Thanks for your report. Best, -- Richard. This message has been edited by =RWK= on 2012-01-23 21:45:24

Why??? [nt]

 
 By: =RWK= : January 24th, 2012-08:52
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I wonder. :)

 
 By: amanico : January 24th, 2012-12:28

My view on the novelties is that they are ALL EXCELLENT.

 
 By: passetemps : January 28th, 2012-10:18
I love each of the new watches released this year, as much as i love the previous ones, and can see no reason to complain. Lange is still the finest brand in the world.

Amen.

 
 By: amanico : January 28th, 2012-10:41