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Thanks Gordan for a more in-depth explanation on the 1938P limited edition particularly on the reasons behind the dial.
I think the reasons for the portrait on the dial is understandable while not everyone may like or agree to Patek's decision. Given the target customers will likely be those super VIPs who have deep personal relationships with the Sterns family, they will certainly appreciate it as an unique piece within their Patek's collection.
Hi All, Many thanks to Miranda in writing up an informative post on the 1938P ! Reading through all the comments, I would like to share my thoughts in this post, particularly on the dial.
IMO 1938P is a marvellous watch in terms of innovation, interesting complications of MR and an alarm, and meaningfulness of son honoring his father's accomplishments ! For this important milestone of Mr. Philippe Stern’s 85 th Birthday, I think Thierry cr...
To be honest both watches just scream tacky to me.
I don't want to take anything away from the watchmaking involved, but that dial is not a fitting tribute in my opinion.
What if...
Thierry created 30 pieces... one piece with his father's face on the dial which was kept for himself (or Patek Museum) as a loving tribute to his Dad. 29 pieces with an exceptional dial without Mr. Stern's face for collectors. This would completely change...
Gordon, I think you have made a strong argument for why the decision of Thierry to make this tribute watch deserves to be respected. I certainly respect
Thierry’s decision to honor his Dad in this manner and contrary to sound financial considerations to never place this movement in any future watch. That said I think it could be done in a different way - a way that would make the tribute even more special...
Point well taken. I think if were an actual gift in the usual sense, the recipients would be less likely to sell even at a later point.
One of the reasons I suggested a personal engraving on the outside of the caseback is to further reduce the likelihood of a later sale.
I remain with my initial thoughts: A portrait in memory of someone who already passed away is fine for me, but the father is still alive so I think it‘s not appropriate.
And no disrespect towards his life’s work, but he‘s not a king, so the comparision you‘re making does not work for me.
Tribute watch 🥂
The dial I feel is made appropriately for such an occasion. It has all the hallmarks of the past and plays into how important Henri was to Patek and the future. Glad this was made with a silhouette of Henri and not marked with the years…I’m sure everyone ...
Regarding the Saud pieces…
these were commissioned by the Saud family/Saudi government, correct? Were any collectors elsewhere interested in this piece, or person? I view the Stern piece very differently. While I may have mixed feelings about the face on the front [as opposed to th...
Why would I want Stern's portrait on MY watch...
...if he's not my father or if he's not my very close friend?
My company My father My decision
Do I really care what any one else thinks Slightly overstated but I reckon pretty close to the truth
Only 30 pieces, for important collectors, but really for friends of the family.
"I don't like the dial" doesn't matter - you are not invited to the party anyway. The second slightly controversial point - a movement that will never be used again. We have seen that before - eg the FP Journe only watch entries. Yet a close cousin inevit...
Dear Gordon, thank you for the comprehensive history of the once off 30 limited pieces of 1938P
It’s no doubt one of the most important references in the history of Patek. The controversy lies in the portrait on dial. Personally I don’t find it too appealing. Perhaps it will attract more audience if the portrait is presented in cloisonné enamel? Any...
Thanks Gordan for a more in-depth explanation on the 1938P limited edition particularly on the reasons behind the dial.
I think the reasons for the portrait on the dial is understandable while not everyone may like or agree to Patek's decision. Given the target customers will likely be those super VIPs who have deep personal relationships with the Sterns family, they will ...
I believe Thierry would give everything he owns . . .
. . . to have his Dad enjoying good health for many years to come. I would, too. 👨👦
